In this recording I started off talking about a footnote that was in the Sahih Al Bukhari hadith book, where an editor of the Sahih Al-Bukhari hadith collection, gave his opinion about what true Islam is. The conversation then switched over to how Muhammad must have been a Pagan, before he was a Muslim because he would have just been following his family and the people of the tribe that he grew up in. The Muslim obviously tried to come up with excuses for why Muhammad was not a Pagan, but he could not have been anything else because he had not made up Islam yet.