In this recording I am talking to a person who grew up as a Muslim and they decided to mention that Zakir Naik was a scholar. I disagreed, along with a European Christian who was beside me, because I have heard some Muslims criticising both Zakir Naik and Yusuf Estes, who are some famous Muslim evangelists. I advised the man to stick with the Saudi Arabian scholars, because they live in a more serious country, which then means that they have more to lose if they make a mistake about the things that they are saying about Islam.